Brief Profile:|| GENERAL NOTES || I have updated this page with more in-depth information now that my cycle is over. Hoping that it can be of use to other MD/PhD applicants out there! My demographics may be incorrect; I don't want to put too much personal information out there.
I applied mostly MSTP with the intention of pursuing my PhD in a social science. Since not all MSTPs fund social science PhDs, I also applied MD at some schools where there are strong research opportunities in my field. This includes Stanford, where I could apply to the MSTP by internal admission (i.e. as an M2). Every school where I applied MSTP, I listed Epidemiology or some other public health degree as my PhD of choice.
AC stands for "All Complete" and refers to the date when my app was marked complete (where possible) or when I submitted my secondary (for schools with no "complete" email).
|| SCORES AND COURSEWORK ||
2015 MCAT Score: 520 (98th percentile, equiv. to ~37, no writing section) cGPA: 3.97 BCPM GPA: 4.00 Major: Interdisciplinary degree, NOT a hard science (you do NOT have to be a hard science major to succeed in MSTP admissions!) Coursework: In addition to my departmental coursework, I took all of the pre-med reqs and some extra upper-div science courses. I also took a few graduate-level courses in my department and in public/global health. I did an honors thesis.
|| RESEARCH ||
- >4 years of research total, will be >5 by matriculation - International public health research during gap year on major post-bacc fellowship - 2 additional international public health research experiences in low- and middle-income countries funded by competitive grant fellowships - 1 year and 1 summer in wet lab research - 1 mid-author pub, 1 published 1st author abstract, 1 1st author poster presentation at an international conference, 3 other 1st author papers in works/submitted at time of application
|| VOLUNTEERING / LEADERSHIP / OTHER ||
- Lots of medical volunteering & shadowing in US and abroad - Extensive leadership experience in service-oriented groups, both health-related and non-health-related - Leadership role in a club sport that allowed me to compete internationally - Class rep on college council - Work experience
|| AWARDS / ACADEMIC MISC. / LORS ||
- Major international award for public health research during gap year - Numerous awards, competitive research fellowships and grants to fund my research experiences - Grab bag of usual academic honors (Phi Beta Kappa, latin honors, scholarships, etc.) - Extremely strong LORs
1. A word on secondaries. The two week turnaround rule for secondaries is complete BS. I submitted some secondaries super fast (within about 3 weeks), and some super slow (after one month+), and it made no difference as to my receiving IIs. In fact, Stanford was the last secondary I submitted, and it was the first school to offer me an II, my first interview, AND I was accepted just one month after my interview. So, my advice is to take your time and make sure to submit quality secondaries rather than rushed half-baked ones.
2. Applying from abroad. I applied and interviewed while living on the other side of the world. It was TOUGH, but can be done. I recommend trying to get your applications out of the way before you go abroad, but if you cannot help it, schools are more or less willing to accommodate. MD/PhD from abroad is harder than MD-only. I had to fly back 3 times in total. It was expensive, but I justified it by telling myself that if I got into an MSTP it would be worth it. Feel free to PM me with questions.
3. MD/PhD in Public Health. As stated above, to every school where I applied MSTP, I listed a public health degree as my PhD of choice. I did not list any basic science PhDs on any application (you can list more than one degree program on most applications). This is one way to apply MD/PhD in Public Health; the other is to apply like any other basic science applicant, and switch into public health once you are admitted. For me, that never would have worked -- I had extensive public health research experience and not a ton of basic science research experience. However, for applicants with mostly lab-based research, this could be an option. I got the impression along the interview trail that schools with strong public health programs were very interested in Epi applicants, since we add diversity to the MSTP class. In all of my interviews, I only met 1 other straight Epi applicant, and 1 other person interested in public health through a basic science route. Needless to say, we are a rare breed.
Despite us being somewhat "unusual", I do not think that applying MD/PhD in Epi is easier than applying to a basic science. This is evidenced by the fact that despite there being a handful of Epi applicants each year, most programs only have 1-2 Epi students across all 8 years' worth of classes, if even that (with the exception of Emory, UNC, and UW, which usually have 1-2 public health matriculants each year). Multiple interviewers along the trail told me that most MD/PhD applicants in public health do not have enough in-depth research experience to get into an Epidemiology PhD program. I think this is probably due to the fact that public health research usually involves field work, and it's harder to get involved in that as an undergraduate than it is to do lab research. Also, most straight-PhD programs in Epidemiology only accept students who already have an MPH. While MD/PhD programs are more flexible on this (I didn't have an MPH), it is still a bit of a hurdle to get over with respect to PhD admissions, since the graduate program in Epi has to review and accept you in addition to the MD/PhD program (either at the time of MD/PhD application or at the time of grad school entry after M2). I think that the opportunities that I was fortunate enough to have to engage in extensive, sustained domestic and international public health research over the past 5 years was the key to my (very lucky) success this cycle. I made the decision to forgo lab research early on in my undergraduate career in favor of public health research, and I think this made a huge difference for me. So if you are interested in public health and are worried about leaving the lab behind in favor of field research, my advice is to do it! Follow your passion, in whatever research arena that may be.
4. After the interview. DO send 1-2 update letters (I only sent 1) to show continued interest and accomplishment. DO send a letter intent if you are able to say with 100% certainty "I will attend this school if accepted." DO NOT send a letter of intent to more than ONE school. I also hand-wrote thank you notes to everyone who interviewed me and the directors of each program. I can't say whether this helped, but a few emailed me to thank me for my note. If nothing else, I just think it is polite.
Application Complete, Rejected
University of California, San Francisco
Applying for combined PhD/MSTP? No
Submitted: 06/13/2015
Secondary Completed: 08/18/2015
Interview Invite: No
Interview Attended: No
Waitlisted: No
Accepted: No
Rejected: 11/20/2015
Summary of Experience:
MD | AC: 8/19/15 | R: 11/20/15 | Comments: Was about to withdraw after Pitt MSTP acceptance but they beat me to it!
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 7/14/15 | II: 12/17/15 (MD-only) | I: 01/28/16 | W: 01/27/16 | Withdrew after UW MSTP acceptance and Stanford MD acceptance. Would go to both of those over Columbia MD.
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 7/17/15 | II: 9/1/15 | I: 12/7-8/15 | W: 03/02/3016 | Impression: Yale's program is all about collaboration, which I think is great. Also a huge fan of the director, Dr. K, who is a great role model for women aspiring to be physician-scientists. Overall, loved the visit!
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 7/25/15 | II: 9/3/15 | I: 12/10-11/15 | W: 03/02/2016 | Impression: Penn is famous for being a really strong MSTP program, and this becomes evident during the interview. Skip Brass and Maggie Krall are amazing administrators, and I think that the large class size (25) would be a huge advantage for a lot of reasons.
Summary of Experience:
MD | AC: 8/10/15 | II: 9/10/15 | I: 11/10/15 | A: 2/24/16 | Impression: I loved Cornell. Amazing facilities (minus the student housing for M1s -- that was rough!), and unbeatable resources for global health and research. Only downside to the interview day was that there was a good bit of free time during the day with not much to do, especially during the morning when interviews were staggered.
Summary of Experience:
MD | AC: 8/12/15 | II: 8/19/15 | I: 11/03/15 | A: 12/19/15 | Impression: Stanford is the dream. Even though I applied here MD-only, I think I would come here if it came down to here and a MD-PhD program that I wasn't thrilled about. Amazing facilities, huge research resources, happy and fun students, and a leadership vibe. This was both my first interview and first (/only) MMI, and I found it to be fair but tricky if you get an odd rater (however both your highest and lowest scores are dropped, so rater anomalies shouldn't have too huge of a bearing). Overall, definitely could see myself here, but we'll see if they can too!
Summary of Experience:
MD | AC: 8/15/15 | II: 8/26/15 | I: 11/11/15 | A: 12/18/2015 | Impression: Overall, really liked Mount Sinai. Great, happy students, and the location in NYC is perfect (right at intersection of Upper East and East Harlem -- super diverse patient base!). Also, amazing student housing -- way better than anything else I've seen in NYC!
Summary of Experience:
MD/PhD | AC: 7/15/15 | II: 11/10/15 | I: 11/30-12/01/15 | A: 03/02/2016 | Impression: #1 choice. Harvard previously had a reputation for poor administration and graduation time stats, but with their new director it seems as though the administration is a huge reason to come to Harvard beyond the many opportunities that H affords. From what the current students say, most if not all of the problems with the old program have been fixed, and it is now incredibly well-run, well-integrated, and supportive. The director is also heavily invested in recruiting and supporting social science students, which is a huge plus for me. Both the Pathways and MD/PhD interviews were fairly relaxed compared with other schools, and there were only two PhD interviews (+1 15 min interview with the director) as compared with the usual 7-9 of other schools.
The only downside to the interview is that you don't get to meet as many potential PIs as you do at other schools. Fortunately I had visited Harvard to meet with researchers before the application cycle, so I had a good feel for the type of research available to me. It is also a fairly "hands-off" interview day, as many have noted, but this suited me as it gave me the opportunity to walk around campus on my own without all the fanfare and tight scheduling of most MSTP interview visits.
After the interview, I am even more confident that Harvard is the perfect place for me to pursue my specific research interests in public health. I did not apply to HST so cannot comment on that program. If by some stroke of fate I am accepted, I will 100% be attending.
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 7/31/15 | II: 9/22/15 | I: 01/21-23/15 | A: 1/21/16 (MSTP) | Impressions: Loved UW. Incredible research opportunities in my field, Seattle is an amazing place for outdoorsy people like myself, and I like that the school is top 10 in both primary care and research. The directors (4 of them!) were all very hands-on, approachable, and yet seriously impressive, and I felt like they would be willing to go to bat for any MSTPer. One director, Dr. Mary-Claire King, was accepting the National Medal of Science during our interview weekend -- insane! Also love the option to do clinical clerkships in the WWAMI region. Fingers crossed!
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 8/02/15 | II: 8/27/15 | I: 12/3-4/15 | A: 12/21/15 (MSTP) | Impression: Emory surprised me -- I went in thinking it would be near the bottom of my list, but left thinking it was somewhere in the top 3. So many researchers doing work in my field, and the students all seemed normal, happy, and engaged. Was a bit put off by the lack of formal clinical experiences during the PhD years, but I guess I could always just arrange for them myself. Really liked that Emory has a formal grant-writing course, though. Really hoping to get accepted!
Summary of Experience:
MSTP | AC: 8/11/15 | II: 11/20/15 | I: 02/01/16 | A: 2/23/16 | Accepted, yay! | Comments: Received email on 10/24 saying that I am a 'strong applicant' and that IIs will be sent out in late November, then received II.
cd22 took the old MCAT and scored a 37 which is in the 98th percentile of all old scores.
We converted this to a 520 on the updated scale which is in the 98th percentile of the updated MCAT. We also converted cd22’s section scores as follows:
cd22 scored a 12 on the Biological Science section of the old MCAT which is approximately equal to a 130 on the Biological and Biochemical Foundations of Living Systems.
cd22 scored a 12 on the Physical Science section of the old MCAT which is approximately equal to a 129 on the Chemical and Physical Foundations of Biological Systems.
cd22 scored a 13 on the Verbal Reasoning section of the old MCAT which is approximately equal to a 132 on the Critical Analysis and Reasoning Skills.